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I would like to hear some positive stories of living with an alcoholics
I've read a lot of posts here from a lot of people covering different situations and I am a little sadden that I am not seeing more positive stories from people. I know that there are a lot out there to be read. Maybe I'm lucky that my situation I was in worked out. I know there are people new here that are looking for advice and I know that some are in situations that they should get out of. I would like to give out some advice to some new members that there is hope if you alcoholic is willing to sober up. You do need to take care of yourself first but keep in mind your spouse has an illness. Remember all is not lost. I have been married for 22 years and 15 of it my spouse drank everyday. I was out of love and lost but after my spouse admitted the problem and sobered up I fell in love again with the person I married long ago. Have hope if you are in a situation that can be overcome.
Maybe I'm wrong to post this but I feel that some people need to hear there are some good positive stories out there
Maybe I'm wrong to post this but I feel that some people need to hear there are some good positive stories out there
As Bill Sees It
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Maintenance and Growth
It is plain that a life which includes deep resentment leads only to futility and unhappiness. To the precise extent that we permit these, do we squander the hours that might have been worthwhile. But with the alcoholic, whose hope is the maintenance and growth of a spiritual experience, this business of harboring resentment is infinitely grave. For then we shut ourselves off from the sunlight of the spirit. The insanity of alcohol returns and we drink again. And with us, to drink is to die.
If we were to live, we had to be free of anger. The grouch and the sudden rage were not for us. Anger is the dubious luxury of normal men, but for us alcoholics it is poison.
ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, P. 66
First Edition
Maintenance and Growth
It is plain that a life which includes deep resentment leads only to futility and unhappiness. To the precise extent that we permit these, do we squander the hours that might have been worthwhile. But with the alcoholic, whose hope is the maintenance and growth of a spiritual experience, this business of harboring resentment is infinitely grave. For then we shut ourselves off from the sunlight of the spirit. The insanity of alcohol returns and we drink again. And with us, to drink is to die.
If we were to live, we had to be free of anger. The grouch and the sudden rage were not for us. Anger is the dubious luxury of normal men, but for us alcoholics it is poison.
ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, P. 66
First Edition
Big Book Quote
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"Next, we decided that hereafter in this drama of life, God was going
to be our Director. He is the Principal; we are His agents. He is
the Father, and we are His children. Most good ideas are simple, and
this concept was the keystone of the new and triumphant arch through
which we passed to freedom."
~Alcoholics Anonymous-1st Edition
How It Works
"Next, we decided that hereafter in this drama of life, God was going
to be our Director. He is the Principal; we are His agents. He is
the Father, and we are His children. Most good ideas are simple, and
this concept was the keystone of the new and triumphant arch through
which we passed to freedom."
~Alcoholics Anonymous-1st Edition
How It Works
As Bill Sees It
Can We Choose?
We must never be blinded by the futile philosophy that we are just the hapless victims of our inheritance, of our life experience, and of our surroundings - that these are the sole forces that make our decisions for us. This is not the road to freedom. We have to believe that we can really choose.
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"As active alcoholics, we lost our ability to choose whether we would drink. We were the victims of a compulsion which seemed to decree that we must go on with our own destruction.
"Yet we finally did make choices that brought about our recovery. We came to believe that alone we were powerless over alcohol. This was surely a choice, and a most difficult one. We came to believe that a Higher Power could restore us to sanity when we became willing to practice A.A.'s Twelve Steps.
"In short, we chose to "become willing," and no better choice did we ever make."
1. GRAPEVINE, NOVEMBER 1960 - 2. LETTER, 1966
We must never be blinded by the futile philosophy that we are just the hapless victims of our inheritance, of our life experience, and of our surroundings - that these are the sole forces that make our decisions for us. This is not the road to freedom. We have to believe that we can really choose.
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"As active alcoholics, we lost our ability to choose whether we would drink. We were the victims of a compulsion which seemed to decree that we must go on with our own destruction.
"Yet we finally did make choices that brought about our recovery. We came to believe that alone we were powerless over alcohol. This was surely a choice, and a most difficult one. We came to believe that a Higher Power could restore us to sanity when we became willing to practice A.A.'s Twelve Steps.
"In short, we chose to "become willing," and no better choice did we ever make."
1. GRAPEVINE, NOVEMBER 1960 - 2. LETTER, 1966
Big Book Quote
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"God will constantly disclose more to you and to us. Ask Him in your
morning meditation what you can do each day for the man who is still
sick. The answers will come, if your own house is in order. But
obviously you cannot transmit something you haven't got. See to it
that your relationship with Him is right, and great events will come
to pass for you and countless others. This is the Great Fact for us."
Alcoholics Anonymous-1st Edition
"A Vision For You"
"God will constantly disclose more to you and to us. Ask Him in your
morning meditation what you can do each day for the man who is still
sick. The answers will come, if your own house is in order. But
obviously you cannot transmit something you haven't got. See to it
that your relationship with Him is right, and great events will come
to pass for you and countless others. This is the Great Fact for us."
Alcoholics Anonymous-1st Edition
"A Vision For You"
I know who I learned codependency from
My father passed this morning. I'm at peace with the fact that he is much better off now than he was his last weeks here on earth. Still, he was a wonderful role model and I'll miss him terribly. I've wondered often about how I became so co-dependent. Neither of my parents were alcoholics.....wouldn't even allow alcohol in our home. My dad probably had some addictive tendancies toward food, but I never gave it much thought growing up.
My mom, whose father was an alcoholic, has shown her co-dependency in full force. She has been controlling everything right down to when we are allowed to cry! I showed up at the Hospice this morning, after sobbing all the way, and she promptly instructed me to stop crying, because there just wasn't anything to be sad about. I've come a pretty long way in my recovery over the past few months and feeling ANYTHING is a huge step for me. I was numb for so long. It's hard to watch her, now that I really know what's going on. But I'll continue to cry when I need to, laugh when I feel like it, and know that every day I'm getting a little healthier.
Next step.....dealing with AH. I'm sure that in the next few weeks, when all the dust settles, I'll be needing more advice and support in moving forward with that situation. For now I've got more than enough on my plate. Thank you to each of you who have given me love and encouragement to get through this trying time.
My mom, whose father was an alcoholic, has shown her co-dependency in full force. She has been controlling everything right down to when we are allowed to cry! I showed up at the Hospice this morning, after sobbing all the way, and she promptly instructed me to stop crying, because there just wasn't anything to be sad about. I've come a pretty long way in my recovery over the past few months and feeling ANYTHING is a huge step for me. I was numb for so long. It's hard to watch her, now that I really know what's going on. But I'll continue to cry when I need to, laugh when I feel like it, and know that every day I'm getting a little healthier.
Next step.....dealing with AH. I'm sure that in the next few weeks, when all the dust settles, I'll be needing more advice and support in moving forward with that situation. For now I've got more than enough on my plate. Thank you to each of you who have given me love and encouragement to get through this trying time.
Wet Brain Syndrome
Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome also referred to as wet brain often is seen in later stage alcoholics. This condition shows up on an MRI as a smaller less functional brain. The symptoms such as short term memory loss, inability to learn new things, inability to concentrate or focus could apply to a lot of things. I have never known anyone actually diagnosed with this so I have no real point of reference. Has anyone ever been diagnosed with this or known anyone who has?
Conditions such as Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome, depression, anxiety, older age and a lot of other things have much the same symptoms. When I think back on all the alcohol I consumed over the years I kind of wonder why I never developed this. I had an MRI done a few years ago and everything appeared normal. Again, has anyone ever met someone with this condition and if so how noticable and serious is it?
Conditions such as Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome, depression, anxiety, older age and a lot of other things have much the same symptoms. When I think back on all the alcohol I consumed over the years I kind of wonder why I never developed this. I had an MRI done a few years ago and everything appeared normal. Again, has anyone ever met someone with this condition and if so how noticable and serious is it?
New to join
Hi all. Not sure if the correct new comers forum, but wanted to introduce myself. I am the significant other of someone in recovery from alcohol abuse. Three days in rehab and so far so good.
My parents were alcoholics, my older brother was and now sober for many years, another brother was addicted to pain medication. A lot of history and emotions to deal with. I thought I was finished with all of this as 33 years not being around any type of substance abuse and now I am knocked over by how far gone 'my guy' really is.
I am scared to death of relapse when he gets out and comes home. One day at a time!
Not what I expected for a Christmas present (he wanted to propose):Xmasistar, but instead admitted he has a problem and went into rehab! Could not ask for a better gift.
Enjoy your day everyone and sorry if I posted in the wrong newcomers forum.
My parents were alcoholics, my older brother was and now sober for many years, another brother was addicted to pain medication. A lot of history and emotions to deal with. I thought I was finished with all of this as 33 years not being around any type of substance abuse and now I am knocked over by how far gone 'my guy' really is.
I am scared to death of relapse when he gets out and comes home. One day at a time!
Not what I expected for a Christmas present (he wanted to propose):Xmasistar, but instead admitted he has a problem and went into rehab! Could not ask for a better gift.
Enjoy your day everyone and sorry if I posted in the wrong newcomers forum.
Alcohol and infidelity
I would like to know about your feelings about infidelity and how alcohol influences it or if it is simply a character issue.
I'm divorced now. I go to Alanon to help me. However, I still have this burning question. Is infidelity something that is OK with alcoholics?
I tend to think it's a combination of bad character and alcohol.
My ex drank during our 30 + years of marriage. In the beginning 1-2 6 packs of beer daily, then the last 15 years or so, 1 - 2 bottles of wine daily and then in addition to this, more recently, a generous glass of cognac every night!
I never knew about alcoholism. There wasn't any drinking in my family when I grew up....other problems, but there was never alcohol in the house!
Now my ex is with his "buddy" of 20 years. It's a relationship I never knew about! Looking back, now I see what a charming liar he was. He had to be in control and could get away with it with his charm. He also held, and still holds, a rather good job. I guess you could say, he was a great actor and compulsive liar.
When I accidently found out about his "buddy" our marriage was over.
He has had a DWI three years ago....was forced to go for detox...but after that, still drank....but had it under better control....
Again, did I marry a man without character right from the beginning or did the alcohol change him????
I know, forget about him, move on....I am, but I still would like to hear from you about this question.....
THANKS
I'm divorced now. I go to Alanon to help me. However, I still have this burning question. Is infidelity something that is OK with alcoholics?
I tend to think it's a combination of bad character and alcohol.
My ex drank during our 30 + years of marriage. In the beginning 1-2 6 packs of beer daily, then the last 15 years or so, 1 - 2 bottles of wine daily and then in addition to this, more recently, a generous glass of cognac every night!
I never knew about alcoholism. There wasn't any drinking in my family when I grew up....other problems, but there was never alcohol in the house!
Now my ex is with his "buddy" of 20 years. It's a relationship I never knew about! Looking back, now I see what a charming liar he was. He had to be in control and could get away with it with his charm. He also held, and still holds, a rather good job. I guess you could say, he was a great actor and compulsive liar.
When I accidently found out about his "buddy" our marriage was over.
He has had a DWI three years ago....was forced to go for detox...but after that, still drank....but had it under better control....
Again, did I marry a man without character right from the beginning or did the alcohol change him????
I know, forget about him, move on....I am, but I still would like to hear from you about this question.....
THANKS
New to all of it
For the first time in my life I have realized that I need help. I am a young and recent college grad who has a very strong sense of self and have always felt "different." I have realized and that realization has come like a slap in the face, that my feeling "different" is actually me being codependent. I have started researching and reading so much on this and it is truly unbelievable how much I can apply to my own life. I have learned time and time again about this concept of "codependency," but not once ever applied it to my own life. Now that I have I feel like I am so much more aware of it and myself, but what do I do? I am for the first time in my life single and ALONE. After dating many young alcoholics and feeling a failure after ending the relationships, I am finally realizing this pattern that I have created and even how it all started. I definitely don't want any relationship (especially with another alcoholic) as my last 4 year relationship ended just this October. I have a very complicated story and don't want to share all of it quite yet, but I guess I just need some guidance because I go from sort of being able to enjoy myself, to rage that I don't know where it comes from, to a sadness that takes over my whole body to obsessing over everything that is beyond my control. I am seeing a therapist for some insights and an objective point of view and I am also planning to attend Al Anon meetings ASAP. I feel like I am on the right path but just feel so alone, isolated, angry and sick and tired of being sick and tired of the effects of alcoholism and how it has affected my life and those I care about so profoundly. HELP!!!
